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“A very thought-provoking book, sure to be controversial. I love it!” —John W. Loftus, author, How to Defend the Christian Faith"There is a new era to come, a new conversation in town, and it doesn’t involve 'God.' Let Lindsay's book be the erudite ice-breaker." —Jonathan MS Pearce, author, The Little Book of Unholy Questions"Everybody Is Wrong About God is a manifesto; a call to abandon the battle over God, which has already been won and which some are still far too invested in fighting, and move on to the main front in the struggle for the future of all sentient beings . . . . everyone who cares about secularism and humanism should read this book and discuss it vigorously." —Ryan J. Bell, Year Without God
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About the Author
James A. Lindsay holds degrees in physics and mathematics, with a doctorate in the latter. He has authored two previous books, including Dot, Dot, Dot: Infinity Plus God Equals Folly. He lives in Knoxville, Tennessee. Peter Boghossian is the author of A Manual for Creating Atheists.
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Paperback: 248 pages
Publisher: Pitchstone Publishing (December 1, 2015)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1634310365
ISBN-13: 978-1634310369
Product Dimensions:
6 x 0.6 x 9 inches
Shipping Weight: 9.6 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)
Average Customer Review:
4.0 out of 5 stars
32 customer reviews
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#427,383 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
I really wanted to like this book but it had a few core problems for me as a reader.1. The premise of the entire book is based on a mildly interesting insight that gets expanded to book length. It's as if the author felt he stumbled upon a revolutionary idea that stood to change everything about the way people discuss god, which could all change if only people could just bet people to see his point. The basic premise is that people mean (at least) two separate and distinct things when talking about the existence of god. The author asserts there are really two definitions out there: God and "god". With respect to God - Lindsay treats this as a theological/mythological proposition regarding an actual entity. Interestingly enough Lindsay is comfortable saying this version of God does not exist. But then there's "god" - which Lindsay treats as a psychological catchall denoting certain social/cultural values and/or psychological needs of the speaker. Here Lindsay says "god" demonstrably exists...and why not....if all that is meant is a subjective report on a person's internal psychology.According to the author it's the failure to distinguish between those two things that leads atheists to misunderstand and therefore mishandle the typical god conversation. (While failing to note the theists responsibility in this area too.)My main problem with this argument is that it's clever as far as it goes but ultimately ends up being of little value or utility. In my experience theists almost always use the term in both ways simultaneously and inter-dependently and will defend both meanings as if they were one inseparable or one and the same. Thus it is not sufficient to say it's incumbent upon the atheist to understand how the other speaker is using the term. The tricky part is bringing the theist to acceptance of the the basic distinction/dichotomy as well....which is to say that in order to get out of the typical points and counterpoints of theistic debate.....the theist TOO must come to the realization that while "god" may exist......God almost certainly does not. Good luck with that......Structurally I also found the book to be a bit frustrating. It felt as if the author spent half the book telling me what he was going to tell me. It left me feeling like the first half of the book was merely an extension of the foreword and could have been discarded in favor of simply getting to the point. Organize your argument and present it.....stop wasting space and time telling me how brilliant your point is going to be when you eventually come round to it...and just get on with it. This is particularly frustrating when the ultimate point that really isn't all that brilliant, ground breaking, or revolutionary, once you come to it!! Meanwhile, the actual points made were rather redundant and repetitive with the author expounding on the same point in multiple ways without necessarily illuminating things any better.Lastly, I also found the book to be rather short of practical advice for how one might go about changing the nature, tone, or course of the theist/atheist conversation. It was if the author believed that if only atheists could understand and accept the God/"god" distinction then entire format of the age old conversation would change of it's own accord....forgetting of course that theists must also be brought round to this new POV as well.All in all a mildly interesting point of little utility that was stretched WAY too thin by pulling it to book length.
This book gives a whole new twist to the problem of religion in society. That people use the concept of God as a source of passive control over an uncertain and dangerous world- that Americans will prosper and never have calamity it cannot handle. People give trust to this abstract notion of God to take care of circumstances. They have no idea how this abstract God would accomplish such a feat. The circumstances are too complex or mysterious- like people don't understand the power and mystery of the Sea so they created Poseidan, the Sea God. People attribute Natural events to God and assume there is some force out there, looking after people. People assume there is some jealous force in nature somewhere up in the hills or the sky looking after us. This goes back into thousands of years of mythological assumptions that there must be some force out in nature which can help or hurt us. We assume this force created everything that is. We just have to appeal to the Good side of this force and we will be OK. We don't have time to read a 300 page physics book about the origen of the Universe. Our ancient mythology book tells us us with great authority that the controller of all things, God, actually made the Universe. We don't have any idea how ancient stone age people could figure this out but we're not going to throw out a big old myth that just "has" to be true. In Sweden people's needs are met by the Government so they reduce their reliance on God. Instead of puffing up the notion of God and trying to prove or disprove the existence of God we should be working together to solve our own problems and give up the notion of God. We should help each other solve problems by national means, not mythological means.
I’m here to be supportive of Mr. Lindsay, who was (I think) the lead author of the infamous Portland dog park rape culture paper. Anyone who can write and (almost) get away with that stuff is OK by me. I’ve read the first chapter and skimmed the rest of the book. Is Mr. Lindsay just now catching up with James George Frazier’s The Golden Bough, William James’ The Varieties of Religious Experience, or even Nietzsche’s Thus Spoke Zarathustra? I get the impression he thinks he has nailed the very last nail in the theistic coffin, but theism has survived tougher challenges by more knowledgeable people and persisted. I suspect it will do so after this book. Just don’t tell Mr. Lindsay. It will shake his faith. And if he reads this review: I love you dude!
A fantastic extension of the topic of why people believe. This book calls nonbelievers to become non-theists and rise to the occasion and needs of those who are psychologically still wedded to a beliefs/a belief community. While I am still looking for more on the physiological needs of faith/faith communities I think this book sets up the proper foundation. While politically I find Atheism and Firebrand Atheism relevant and useful political term/communities, this book moves toward more effective ways of communicating about belief. Lindsay gives a place to the fact that lots of intelligent people believe...because they psychologically need to. Taking this seriously should allow interested (post)atheists to focus on more meaningful tactics/strategies in the culture war, and ideally step away from arrogance of our own superior rationalities and the many fold efforts to build quasi religious groups by demonizing out groups.
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